Thread:PassionatePubli/@comment-35006529-20190913200809/@comment-32094364-20190915204854

This is the last time I will acknowledge this whole ordeal unless we can come to some understanding through this message, because this is genuinely ridiculous. You refuse to see any side of the argument besides your own. I hope this explanation makes some sense to you, because I legitimately don't want to hurt anyone.

I have nonbinary friends who were hurt by Dark Choco and Cinnamon. I used to identify as nonbinary for three years before I came out as trans and I was hurt by Dark Choco and Cinnamon. I am not marking cookies that have not been given something definite within the English translation as nonbinary because I do not want another incident like those where the devs decide they are randomly going to take advantage of the fact they never put pronouns in the description (or even that they did, with Cinnamon) to suddenly change everything on people.

Like...You realize this is the opposite of what a wiki is for, right? Wiki is for definite facts, not for what can be inferred via the lack of information, because that's bound to create issues. Also, I do not mark the cookies as "male/female" in the profile boxes like the Japanese translation is the end-all be-all correct source. I put it in the trivia. Nowhere else. Because it's not confirmed. This isn't a wiki for the Japanese version of the game. Therefore it's nothing but trivia. Yes.

Further. The cookies directly specified with it/its or they/them within the game like Angel, Devil, Squid Ink, Space Doughnut, Ion, etc, are all marked as nonbinary. If the game would literally just mention that once, I would mark any of the others as that happily (because that would mean they're not just dodging around saying anything like with Dark Choco) and nuke out the trivia, because that clearly would mean the English translation wants them to be referred to as nonbinary. The only weird exception right now is Roguefort, because the event seems to make it intentionally unclear. If Roguefort continues to only use they/them by the ending of the event, I will likely change the page to explicitly say nonbinary instead of uncertain/nonbinary and delete the trivia and leave it at that, as I try to keep things straightforward and all the same.

Mic Mac, however, cannot be trusted. He's basically just a PR guy. Has he called those cookies those pronouns? Maybe, I've never seen it since I don't use the forums, and nobody wants to provide pics, so I'll just genuinely trust you on that. You know what else he's done that I actually heard with my own ears? Called Cyborg a "he." So if Mic Mac is to be trusted, then that should mean, by that logic, he's actually confirmed Cyborg is male, or at least nonbinary male. (But frankly considering he's the PR guy that probably means he runs the twitter and if that's the case, he's made at least one or two really godawful jokes that I am not happy about, including a triggered joke, so I don't really trust him to begin with)

I am actually very sorry people are harassing people using information on the wiki. That actually does upset me, and I hate that people are misusing that information to push forwards with whatever petty arguments they're making. People should be able to see whatever cookies as whatever they want without getting attacked, and it's upsetting the culture on the forums is to misuse information to hurt nonbinary people. (or even people who just wanna have nonbinary cookies and aren't nonbinary themselves) I'm again, sorry for that. Genuinely. I'm not going to try to defend that. That's nothing to be proud of for happening.