Thread:PassionatePubli/@comment-31642501-20200520080058/@comment-31642501-20200520170844

Hello again! Thank you for taking the time to read and reply to my original comment! Although, unfortunately, there are still a few points you have made which I do not believe are well-founded.

- For the sake of my response, I searched once again for the original Korean descriptions of Peppermint Cookie and Snow Sugar Cookie, within which there are also no personal pronouns of any kind being used to refer to either Cookie. The deletion of pronouns was done to create a more accurate translation from the Korean version of the game! It was not impossible to word any part of either description without pronouns; there simply never were any in the first place, and the translations were adjusted accordingly.

- It is very interesting to me how confidently you are stating that Roguefort is referred to as "male" in "every single other language" when this is blatantly incorrect in multiple ways.

1. Once again referring to the original Korean description and references to Roguefort Cookie, there is absolutely no point as to which any masculine gendered terms are used to refer to Roguefort Cookie. The most popular Korean Cookie Run wiki that I was able to find does list Roguefort's gender as "presumed to be male," however there is a subscript that explicitly states that Roguefort does not have a confirmed gender, and that this assumption has been made due to their mannerisms and speech style alone. Which, of course, do not necessarily have anything to do with someone's gender (or lack thereof.)

2. It is very strange as to how you apparently researched the etymology of the Japanese term "kare" for what you claim to be "a while" and still came to the conclusion that it is indefinitely masculine, when I found three sources in a simple Google search within two minutes that state otherwise, including an entire collage-level research paper analyzing the history and modern use of the term that states the following, on its second page:

"Later on, pronouns were established as an independent category. Only then, did kare appear in the list of personal pronouns. Kieda (1937), Sakakura (1974), Mikami (1972) and Yamazaki (1958) refer to kare as enshoo (lit. distance-reference) in the same category of a-forms such as ano hito (that person), are (that person; familiarity) and aitsu (that person; male, colloquial). It would seem rather strange that kanojo is not listed. However, the way these researchers looked at kare is not based on the modern use of kare/kanojo, but goes back to the usage in the old Japanese system. The term, kare, existed in old literature, applying to both men and women, although it did not directly point out a ‘person’ but ‘location’ (as a sign of politeness to the referent person). Ka or kare was used in referring to someone in distance."

Therefore, if you do have any more grounds as to Roguefort's gender being confirmed in any other language, or if there are other terms being used for Roguefort that are actually masculine terms only, then I would like to see them for myself.

3. Referring to the original Korean Cookie Run descriptions once again, it is safe to say that it is extremely unlikely that Roguefort Cookie will ever be revealed to be a specific gender. And, since you previously mentioned the genders of Cinnamon Cookie and Dark Choco Cookie apparently being "changed" at later points, the truth is...both Cookies have always been referred to as male in Korean. Yes, even Cinnamon Cookie in Kakao Cookie Run! DevSisters did not "shred" Cinnamon in the transfer to OvenBreak; they once again simply updated the accuracy of their translation. With this in mind, as well as how both the aforementioned Snow Sugar Cookie and Peppermint Cookie have consistently been referred to with no gendered terms or pronouns for over 4 years, it is once again doubtful that DevSisters will have any intention of altering Roguefort Cookie's current identity. It is true that Roguefort is in a disguise as a phantom thief, and that they may simply be referred to as having an unknown gender due to this. Even so, it would still not be inaccurate to refer to them as nonbinary, because that is what we know with the information we currently have been given, as well as how this relates in context to how the genders of previous Cookies have been presented.

(And, yes, I was around since the beginning of Dark Choco's international release; I have been a fan of Cookie Run since 2016!)

- Additionally, to ease your apparently paranoid mindset over whether the genders of Fig Cookie and DJ Cookie will ever be "changed," the answer is no. These Cookies are also not referred to with any pronouns in the original Korean version of the game.

If you are to have any frustrations with DevSisters about the way the game is presented, then they would better be directed towards other aspects rather than this one. All of your own concerns over the genders of these Cookies I was easily able to rectify by simply referring back to the source material. So, if you do have any further concerns in mind regarding any of the points I have presented now, please do make sure you have solid evidence to back up your claims this time. Best regards!